yes, and that's one of the few things I hate about the internet. Snarking can be fun, but sometimes you really wanna have a mature discussion and people feel like they have to act like children.

It's not that I have an issue with anyone having an opinion that is the exact opposite of mine...it's people's shitty attitudes that piss me off. I might be right or wrong, but it's still my right to feel the way that I do, and I'll never be a douchebag to someone who disagrees, because that's not the kind of person that I am.

You know how I am though, and we disagree on alot of things, but we know how to move past that and be adults...it's sad that someone just aren't mature, you know?

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I have no problem with someone respectfully telling me why they disagree. In fact, I welcome it. I think it's positive to be able to discuss stuff like that. :)

I kinda feel the same way. Morally, I think it's wrong, but I won't deny another woman the right. But, if it became illegal at some point, I wouldn't complain. That's just me though.

Yeah, I read that. I was nauseous.

If you noticed, I was uber polite to everyone, and not once did I try to force my opinion down anyone's throat. But, because I disagreed with the minority, I get dubbed the "evil pro-lifer" type, and that's frustrating.

What boggles my mind is that, further down in the comments, someone referred to the girl who had the abortions as a "callous, cold-hearted bitch" and noone said a thing, but everyone jumped all over me.

The booju makes no sense to me.

I think it's important, when it comes to the abortion debate, to separate the moral arguments from the arguments of whether or not it should be legal or not. I think casually using abortion as a form of birth control is extremely immoral and unethical.

This does not change my opinion of why abortion should remain legal... the consequences of illegalizing abortion are worse than the consequences of legal abortion. The "woman's right to chose" argument sort of glosses over the sort of stark choices a woman faced in case she messed up in the old days... and some of the things we no longer really have. Instead of abortion and single parents, we had forced marriage / "shotgun weddings", back alley abortions (and dangerous self-attempted abortions), orphanages, etc. That is my opinion. Some may prefer the old days I guess.

I think it is possible for pro-choice people, in the face of the anti-abortion crowd (which can shriek pretty bad on the grounds of moral absolutism), to get on their *own* slippery slope of trivializing the nature of abortion. But sure, vice-versa tends to happen as well... I remember one Youtube video made asking anti-abortion protesters exactly what the punishment for an illegal abortion should be, and who should be punished. That made people stammer a bit. Most people hadn't thought that far.

This is why most abortion debates descend into pointless name-calling.

Thank you, my dear. :)

Very well said.

The booj is FULL of the crazies. It's amusing as hell.

What boggles my mind is that, further down in the comments, someone referred to the girl who had the abortions as a "callous, cold-hearted bitch" and noone said a thing, but everyone jumped all over me.

The booju makes no sense to me.

They do not do Norplant for many reasons. 1)not too safe 2)using it as a tool to make sure them poor darkies don't reproduce 3)not safe at all.

Yes, I am quite serious about #2. Literature is pretty easy to find on the racist aspects of implementing Norplant back in the day.

It's not that at all...I disagree, but I can respect that 100%, because it's your right to feel that way. It's the people who spew "it's our right!" bullshit, but won;t allow me the right to disagree. It's just frustrating, you know?

EXACTLY

I know!!! And I wasn't even a bitch about anytihng!

I'd like to suggest 54th trimester abortions. :)

Yeah that's why many of us consider ourselves pro choice at all. We may never have an abortion (or in my case never be party to one) ourselves, but don't think it's ethical to try to use the power of the state to coerce people about the issue.